Sunday, July 16, 2006

8 Canadians Killed in Lebanon:

Eight Lebanese-Canadians are dead and six others injured after an Israeli air strike in Lebanon, according to Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay.


"Pending further information and contact with their families, all we can say is that there are eight confirmed casualties (and) six who have been critically injured, and we're actively pursuing as much information as quickly as possible," MacKay told CTV Newsnet on Sunday.


According to The Associated Press, five of the dead are Lebanese-Canadians from a single family who were killed in an Israeli air strike while in their home in Aitaroun, on the border of Israel.



Deepest prayers and condolences goes out the families and friends of the deceased and injured. The most tragic episodes in a armed conflict is whenever innocent civilians get caught up in the crossfire.

But probably what's even more sickening is the that the political grandstanding some of our resident progressives have been making of these deaths. At a time when the middle east is about to explode in world war 3, the only I thing can make out from their reactions is a sense of joy that these deaths might end up hurting Stephen Harper's political game.

Let us first go through some facts and questions regarding the deaths and the "progressive" response:

  • Do many of the people who are calling this an act of war believe that Israel deliberately targeted these civilians?

  • Southern Lebanon (which according to the news report is where the Canadians have been killed) has always been an area which the Department of Foreign affaires has warned Canadians of going whenever you travel to Lebanon. And I know this because I remember being contacted by the Canadian Embassy in Saudi Arabia 48 hours before departing to Lebanon in 2002 for a 3 day vacation, warning me specifically to avoid the southern region (any region south of Saida to be specific). As the region has always been a point of constant violence between Palestinian and Lebanese militias as well as attacks from the Israeli border. We must therefore assume that proper warning have been in place for the Lebanese-Canadians involved, and that ignoring the or disregarding that warning comes at their own judgment.

  • Liberal MP Dan McTeague also tried to politicize the situation on CTV by point the finger of blame on the Harper Government and tried to look informed in the whole matter by giving out a number in which Canadians in Lebanon can access. The turd apparently had no idea that Canadians in Lebanon who were calling the embassy were already being transferred to the Ottawa Switchboard, at least according to my friend Khaled.

  • Since when did the left in Canada ever give a dam about Canadian residents in the middle east in the he first place? When the storey of Iran jailing a Canadian professor came out earlier in the year, it was met by stunning silence by the leftist blogsphere. Ditto with the Kouzimi case. Why weren't they screaming bloody murder at Iran for clearly and intentionally harming Canadian life then? Simple: Because that would mean having them agree with the new Government's tough approach to Iran. Therefore there was no need for an outrage. Or even care. This compliments what I've been saying all along when it comes to the Left and the Middle East: Deaths in the region to them are only tragic when it can be spun into an attack on their political opponents.

  • The Israeli government owes Canada an explanation. There's absolutely no denying this whatsoever. What exactly were the Israelis targeting? Did they have solid evidence to back up that a threat did reside in the targeted location?

  • Most important point to consider in all this: ALL these deaths, Canadian and non-Canadian, could have been avoided without Hezbollah declaring war on Israel by kidnapping two of their soldiers and demanding appeasement.

That's it for now. I'm still working the phones like crazy trying to get Khaled out of the fucking country as soon and as safely as possible. He's still alive, I talked to him last night. He was contacted by the Ottawa Foreign Affairs Bureau, who told him to expect instructions for evacuation in 1 to 2 days. But according to him he's going to try to get out of there on his own through the north.

29 Comments:

At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Canadi-anna said...

It looks like the evacuation plans are in the works. Here's hoping Khaled gets out fast.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous Anne (happier in Ontario) said...

My most sincere wishes for your friend's safe passage. I have thought of him specifically several times today, good to know that he is still okay. Let your friend know that he has many Canadians praying for him and the others. I know you will see him soon.

I am glad that you pointed out the hypocrisy from the left and their usual "silence" on many issues. I get the distinct feeling they are happy to see civilian deaths (any nationality) so they can attempt to throw political punches, they have no shame.

Between all that is going on in the ME, the deaths of the Canadians there and the deaths of the two mounties it is indeed a very sad day.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Winston said...

sorry to hear it

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Arabian Dissent, I am a reporter with the Ottawa Sun, can you drop me an email at jabrrr@gmail.com when you get the chance?

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous KPK said...

I completely agree with your fair assessment to this whole sad affair. It is disgusting that the media are playing up Harper's statement about Israel's "measured" response when the situation 48 Hours ago was somewhat different. Previously they were targeting radar installations etc. used by Hezbollah. Now we have to wait for Israel's explanation regarding these 8 deaths. I have heard reports that there are actual Iranian Republican guardsmen in Lebanon training Hezbollah how to use new more advanced rocket launchers. We will see if any evidence of this is provided by the Israelis. In any event the situation does not appear to be cooling down.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Dan McTeague could take the time to explain why his Liberals allowed a Pro-Hamas/Hezballah/Shariah-Law
Muslim Org. to raise funds and promote antisemitism in Canada right under the noses of Chretien and Martin , along with their support for the 'Khadr's" that Dan's party protected.

Check out the links below, Dr.Sheema Khan from CAIR-Can denied any link to CAIR-USA or Hamas and Hezballah , but clearly in past evidence and videos CAIR rallies have flown the Palestinian and Hezballah flags.
Sheema Khan in on record at the Arar inquiry as being exposed for CAIR's bogus "Islamophobia" survey to promote Islamic indoctrine to the RCMP and CSIS to stop Racial profiling and accusing Canadian Muslims of terrorism links.

Sorry Sheema, the gig is up, Jihadists arrested in the GTA and CAIR does support and back Hamas and Hezballah.

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

http://www.caircan.ca/

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Zorpheous said...

AK, while I freely admit my post was more than over the top, it was more a 2 by 4 approach of pointing out PM Harper's earlier statements this week. Seriously where did you think this going to lead to? The terrorist are plastering civilans in Israel, the IDF is plastering almost anything that moves. Unless world leaders are willing to stand up and tell both sides to STFU and cool it, this situation will only get worse. I personaly do not feel that the IDF's action are a measured response, but that does not mean that Israel isn't entitled to defend herself and her people, but I think this responce is a little out of step. Now that being said, the Terrorist are even more guilty in this since they firing blinding into Israel with no regard for civilians. But this is sad reality of war.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is amazing that all jews think that israel is right to attack the palestinians and the lebanese because of a couple of zionist in uniform got what they deserved.The zionists have been murdering ,starving and torturing palestinians for decades,in collusion with the USA and other zionist colonies.Does that mean attacks on those supporters are justified?As for antisemitism, the jews are doing a fine job of fostering and promoting it through their actions and behaviour.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Zorpheous said...

By the way, Has the PM said anything new about this situation yet? Serious, I'm not near a radio or tv right now.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger The Arabian Knight said...

Reporter with Ottawa Sun: Just drop me a line (my e-mail address is in my profile), what exact information are you trying to seek?

Anonymous 1: I already said that politicizing this tragedy is wrong on all counts. That includes from the Conbservative side.

Zorpheous:

I understand what your saying. But the way you phrased it made look like some disgusting political grandstaning where you used a tragedy of 8 people killed and spun it into a smear against your political opponent.

Second of all, while your suggestion is through rational eyes, a decent one, but unfortuantly when it comes to the Middle East, rational gets thrown right out the window. Yes the world should be telling both sides to STFU, but unfortunatly that doesn't exactly bring resulsts when you have one side (the Palestinian and Lebanese terrorist groups) believing that they are doing God's duty. And therefore might not exactly be intimidated by harsh words from the international community.

And so far, all the statements on the issue seem to be coming from McKay. But that could be because its currently 4:15 am in St-Petersberg.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Zorpheous said...

AK, agree with about the rational thought and ME, it does go right out the window. My post was a more of a shot from the hip with very little thought about it, much like Mr. Harper's comments earlier this week.

I just hope Mr. Harper can suck up those original words and the minor political damage from them and come out and say that this needs to stop now and that it will only happen if the USA is willing to step in as well.

Anyways, I have been taking it in the chin this evening for my post.

Thanks for the FYI on announces from MCKay, I hope Harper doesn't try to sidestep this issue for to long, I hope he can get Bush to take a stand for stopping this conflict before it goes completely out of controll, if it isn't there already.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Robert McClelland said...

the only I thing can make out from their reactions is a sense of joy that these deaths might end up hurting Stephen Harper's political game.

My post never mentioned Harper. In fact, except for on passing reference to the Conservative government for their blind support of Israel, none of my posts on these recent events have mentioned Harper and the Conservatives. I'm sure you'll make that correction.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger The Arabian Knight said...

"My post never mentioned Harper. In fact, except for on passing reference to the Conservative government for their blind support of Israel"

Meaning you passingly politicized a tragic case. I was also including you along with this this this this and this.

(and many many more)

Apparently to you people, dead Arabs is only a good thing when it can be spun politicaly to damadge your political opponents. Now what exactly is "progressive" about that?

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger Zorpheous said...

AK, you know that is BS. Ok, so I was busting Harper chops about his earlier comment this week. To me the whole situation is out of control and I really don't want to see anyone dead or injured.

Also, it appears Harper and the our Government is now on top of the matter and they are arranging to get our people out of there. Also the G8 as come down clearly that both sides need to back off now. So full credit where credit is due. Harper and his team are working the file as best as possible, better than the Liberal ever did in the past when it came to storms down south last year.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

catnip here

Don't include me in your finger pointing ad. All I said was "fuck you" in response to Harper's quote that the Israeli response was "justified and measured".

I spoke with people in the comments about how I could not see the majority of Canadians supporting such a soft stance which flies in the face of world opinion - ane especially now when these Canadian deaths have brought the issue home.

Then again, you think I'm just a "racist bitch", so I doubt you actually take the time to read what I write. Screw you and your accusations of political grandstanding. My main concern is for the civilians being killed. Period.

And why do I get the feeling that in your post you're saying the Canadians there should have known better? They're dead. That's what matters. Are you blaming them?

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger Robert McClelland said...

Meaning you passingly politicized a tragic case.

Obviously you didn't look at the link. Why am I not surprised that you'd rather live in ignorance.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger The Arabian Knight said...

"And why do I get the feeling that in your post you're saying the Canadians there should have known better? They're dead. That's what matters. Are you blaming them?"

No, merely absolving the Canadian government of any responsibility. Unless its suicide, no one can be blamed for their own death. What I stated was that the Canadian government warns its citizens not to go into southern lebanon for their own safety. Those who choose not to listen to that must do so at their own discretion.

And I called you a you know what becuase you expressed in the most smug way that exists, that Ignatieff should ignore one humanitarian mission for another. Indicating you believe some areas are more worthy of hel than the others.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger catnip said...

No, what I believe is that Canadian troops should be used for peacekeeping wherever they're needed. I am anti-war and I don't think our troops should be fighting in Afghanistan.

If you read my blog you'll also see that Karzai has called for a human rights inquiry into the coalition's military tactics because he's concerned about the hundreds who have died recently - including the Taliban. I agree. He should be concerned and he has every right to stand up for his people.

Nobody is worthy of hell. No one.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger Greg said...

No "joy" from me, just anger at the stupidity of it all. Our PM's inexperience really showed here.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

catnip:

I agree , Arabs and Muslims aren't worth our troops dieing for their freedoms, bring them home and let Muslims go on slaughtering each other while Allah sorts out which "True" Muslim sole gets into paradise.
Let the Middle east people fight it out for their freedoms,we can't force people to respect human rights and dignity.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger The Arabian Knight said...

"No, what I believe is that Canadian troops should be used for peacekeeping wherever they're needed. I am anti-war and I don't think our troops should be fighting in Afghanistan."

You see, right there is where your ignorance is shown. First of all, what exactly is your definition of "peacekeeping"? Darfur would not exactly be a mission where Canadian troops simply land on a border and start delivering food. There's going to be force involved. Second of all one major pre-requesit that's needed in "peacekeeping" is....well peace. Which is far from the situation right now in the Sudan. Now why exactly do you favour Canadian troops fighting in the Sudan but not Afghanistan?

"If you read my blog you'll also see that Karzai has called for a human rights inquiry into the coalition's military tactics because he's concerned about the hundreds who have died recently - including the Taliban. I agree. He should be concerned and he has every right to stand up for his people."

I know this, and this is a far cry from what your trying to implicate here. He's not asking for western troops to withdraw; far from it. He's asking for an inquiry to make sure the coalition troops are doing evreything in their power not to harm civilians.

"Nobody is worthy of hell. No one."

Well I'd never believe from the way you scream for U.S soldiers to withdraw from Iraq (leaving it at the hands of the religious hardliners or your opposition to the mission in Afghanistan (which in turn would leave the Afghanis at the hands of the Taliban once more.).


Your mask slipped a long time ago catnip.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Anonymous JDot said...

Great post

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger catnip said...

catnip:

I agree , Arabs and Muslims aren't worth our troops dieing for their freedoms, bring them home and let Muslims go on slaughtering each other while Allah sorts out which "True" Muslim sole gets into paradise.


Get a clue. That's not what I said and that's a disgusting attitude.

You want evidence of racism and bigotry, arabian knight? There it is.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger catnip said...

I didn't say Karzai wanted troops to wuthdraw. You know what? I'm incredibly tired of having to explain myself to people who twist my opinions to justify their opposition to me.

Now why exactly do you favour Canadian troops fighting in the Sudan but not Afghanistan?

I don't want troops fighting anywhere. I'm a pacifist. Which part of that don't you understand? I believe Canadian troops should be used for humanitarian missions. Yes, they are doing that in Afghanistan but they are also intensely invloved in the battle against the Taliban. The humanitarian aspects are not their prime mission there, despite how the media tries to spin it as being so.

There's genocide going on in Sudan, so excuse me if I believe that is a more urgent situation.

This is complex but please don't ascribe positions to me that I do not offer. And I don't care about the race, religion, creed, nationality etc of anybody who is in harm's way. If they don't help, they should get it. I don't believe that killing innocent civilians is helpful in any way, shape or form.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Anonymous stageleft said...

At a time when the middle east is about to explode in world war 3, the only I thing can make out from their reactions is a sense of joy that these deaths might end up hurting Stephen Harper's political game.

You're just about as far off the mark as you could be - it wouldn't matter to me who was sitting in the big Canadian parlimentary chair, if they acted like Harper has I'd poking them with a sharp stick as well.

 
At Tuesday, 18 July, 2006, Blogger The Arabian Knight said...

I don't want troops fighting anywhere. I'm a pacifist. Which part of that don't you understand? I believe Canadian troops should be used for humanitarian missions.

Ok Catnip, focus here. What I'm saying in regards to that attitude is that the Darfur mission would also involve alot of fighting, its not going to be just delivering medicine and food, otherwise people from all over the world would be volonterring in droves. Part of that mission (just like Afghanistan) would be to stop those who try to distrub the eace. Hence the word: Peacekeeping.

The humanitarian aspects are not their prime mission there, despite how the media tries to spin it as being so.

If trying to stop a group that's doing its best to stop humanitarian progress from taking place while at the same time contributing socially (e.g. construction, schools, medicine, food) is not a "humanitarian mission" than I'm at a loss. What is a humanitarian mission in your view?

There's genocide going on in Sudan, so excuse me if I believe that is a more urgent situation.

Why not do both, instead of leaving one area and helping the Taliban do some gennocide of their own? Why not call for a growth in military capabilities so that western nations can help both people in need? Why just the Sudan?

I don't want to get off-topic here. This post was mainly for the issue of the dead Canadian civilians in Lebanon.

 
At Sunday, 23 July, 2006, Blogger Louise said...

Catnip is right. We should send in our blue bereted peacekeepers to Darfur and let them flash peace signs. That should stop the genocide immediately.

Check out our resident peacenik's logic here.

 
At Thursday, 27 July, 2006, Blogger Louise said...

This one's for you, Catty Catnip.

 
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